Fiona Donnison is, this morning, recovering in hospital under police guard while her two beautiful young children are lying on slabs in the mortuary. I know already – that sounds like a dreadfully cold and distasteful introduction to an article but what at all is a nice or sympathetic approach to a story about a mother who murdered her children and then took them in the car boot to a local police station with their bodies in sports bags …?
Already the details of an all-too familiar story are being reported; difficulties in the marriage, separation, house up for sale, custody issues…and finally the tragic result of young children paying the ultimate price for the problems of the adults in their lives. These irresponsible, cowardly, reprehensible adults who mess up their own lives and then respond by making everyone else around them bear the consequences, very often it is their own children who now suffer when Mum and Dad stuff up. The neighbours are suitably shocked, said one such Mr Ian Paseka from the same street – “this is an upper-middle class suburb, we don’t even have burglaries here!”…welcome to the real world Mr Paseka, let’s hope this inconsiderate woman’s actions do not devalue your plush two-storey homes…
Fiona Donnison walked into the police station and told police that she had killed her children, Harry 3 and Elise 2 (above). She was in an extremely spaced out state with self-inflicted injuries to her wrists and arms – but whether she is finally assessed as mentally ill, depressed, suicidal or whatever, she is right now in a far better condition than her beautiful, innocent babies are. She is alive and whatever problems she and her husband had she can now reflect on them and maybe get even get better – but at the end of it all lies the fact that she failed to get help when she obviously needed it and her poor little children, like so many others in recent times, have paid the ultimate price. She still has her life – her children have been viciously robbed of theirs.
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we have had a very bloody start to the year in terms of children being killed
the pressures of family law and the failures of the police and social services to act in not the reason but a big factor
there is this case, the case of the dad there killing his kids and his ex partner
and these are only the ones that are know, a child died every week last year in instances like this in the UK think its averaging out 79 a year from a report i seen in the UK
family law is far to adversal and is leading to cases like this and it is the children who are getting hurt and killed in the fallout, its time for a change and no more Lord Laming reports, we need action
Very true Hugh. And all those 79 were killed by a parent or a ‘live-in’ of the parent. If the Govt would only put more effort into saving kids from the people they live with rather than so many of these crazy petty laws aimed at protection from paedophiles maybe more of these kids would survive. But it seems that ‘parents’ have a green light to behave how they wish so long as the abuse is behind closed doors…it is in the ‘too hard’ basket I’m afraid.
with my personal dealing with social services and with the other cases of dads its crazy what people get away with
a peado has human rights to live where they want, where is the childs human right to be in a environment away from peados
one case 9 months it took for social to investigate a welfare issue and when they found it out to be true they close the case
implications
they are awaiting a court decision to get involved
while the case is closed they dont get the blame if anything happens
i know i speak from a fathers perspective but this is a reality – a dad can be stopped from seeing his child on allegation alone, he has to then prove himself through the courts. At the same time any other person in the country can be moved into the child house , unvetted, unchecked.
if there was these checks we could be prudent and say maybe millie martin could of been saved, we dont know for sure but what we do know is that childrens rights have to come before all others
You have presented a perspective that really needs to be taken on by the media and that is simply if the child cannot be with the other parent because of welfare issues being investigated then a blanket ban on others living with that child – in his/her own home – should be enforced. This is an excellent idea Hugh and I cannot understand why such a thing is not in place. Obviously ‘mothers rights’ once again…
That a father can be accused of anything and kept from his child only for a complete stranger to just walk in a take up residence with that child is not only extremely unfair to the parent who respects (however grudgingly) the ruling but can prove to be highly dangerous. And we have seen too many times how dangerous it cn be when unrelated men move in with unrelated children.
I would like to see restrictions placed on mothers when custodial issues are in place – if Dad cannot be in the home or elsewhere with his child then certainly no other unrelated male should be allowed to either.
In fact Hugh, you have sowed the seeds for a very pertinent issue – I am going to put together an article on this very soon: ‘If a good caring dad cannot live with his kids then why should other unrelated men be allowed to so easily?’…along those lines. I think this is a very important topic and I will get the message out there.
hi
i have highlighted this for a year since joining up with fathers for justice in n.ireland, before you judge us on the name listen to the issues that are being raised like the one here.
i am the r&d officer wendy and i can send you quite a bit of information on this#
when i met with the SDLP they finally got the issue at hand, when i met the gender equality unit in oct i told them this, two months before millie martin was killed and a month after a 18 month old child in belfast was badly beaten and bitten
the big problem with the media is that they wont print these issues, in fairness the newsletter will go close though and we ahve a reporter in there who is very supportive. we are also hoping spotlight will pick the issue up, they are considering doing a show on family law.
there are some many areas to be explored in this area, another example from my experience
- a dad has 4 younger brothers and sisters, he is being stopped from seeing his child on allegation. now while he is proving to be a good dad he is still allowed to care for his younger brothers and sisters
-the grandparents are being stopped from seeing their grandchild until a court case proves that the dad is fit to be a father yet the grandparents are parents to the young children
the law is fatally flawed
my blog spot
http://rffjni.blogspot.com/2010/01/real-father-for-justice-gain-political.html
you have my email and i can send you reports and media contacts
martin is right is it a wonder why people get angry, i dont think ager is the right word but i know what you mean, the emotional stress is casing deaths, suicides, pychological problems and there seems to be no coverage in the media what so ever
Hugh, as a member of the Metropolitan Police told me a while ago when the Baby P case was prominent in the media – ‘what you see reported in the media is only the tip of the iceberg’. That really floored me, to know that the problem is more widespread than you think and cases just as bad if not worse occur that you never hear about. One would assume if a man was accused of child abuse he would be prohibited from ALL contact with children while being investigated and not just one or two particular children. But there again is the problem – it is easier to target the man’s ‘interests’ (his children) rather than target and address a whole issue (that of abuse).
If this was to be fair – on the dads AND the kids – there would be a restriction placed on ALL adults who come into contact with the children in question while an accusation is in place. To allow complete strangers to move into that child’s home makes a complete mockery of the allegation! of course there are women who take advantage of the father being effectively removed from the children’s lives in this way – this needs to be acknowledged by the courts and addressed; no dad for the kids – no new men in the home.
Wendy I would very much like to see this issue taken up and highlighted because it is happening on a massive scale. My own brother has been prevented from seeing his two children for the past 18 months, she claims he has anger issues and of course the SS believe HER. But they have done nothing about the three successive ‘friends’ of hers who have lived in HIS house with HIS children in the time since and my brother has no say in this whatsoever. He is very worried for his kids and his ex is laughing in his face, is this fair or even right to be allowed to happen?
No wonder men get angry, I do not in any way agree with the way some men harm their children as revenge but I can understand the anger at the woman and wonder why more ex-wives are not killed in revenge. But that too is wrong.
Hi
Its by far only the tip of what is happening, i ahve had father mothers and grandparents all over n.ireland and the UK contact me as i help with all family groups
Hope this link works if not then email me, hughmccloy@googlemail.com
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B3yFZ5whLJ8zOWE1NTg2YjAtN2Y3YS00ZjBmLTliMGMtZmJmZGZhMThiNTlh&hl=en
when searching this in northern ireland, instead of serious case review, search serious case management.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-shocking-truth-about-child-abuse-in-northern-ireland-1689396.html
Also another area where you may wish to look up on is the work of Brian Gerrish, and his speeches on Child Stealing by the state, its a insight into the cover up of various different issues regarding children. Go through his speeches , you may not like me agree with all of it but by far one of the most open opinions i have seen on family law, child abuse and social serivces since the american Dr Stephen Baskerville.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Pvs-pgbic&feature=PlayList&p=25A74DD7B093C8B9&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85nO1UMUznQ&feature=PlayList&p=F496D8890311C1CE&index=0&playnext=1
Dr Stephen Baskerville – http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/
When i entered into fathers for justice i though it was a simple matter of reform of family law, instead what i have entered is a twilight zone that i never knew existed.
This should all keep me busy thanks Hugh – child stealing…wow now there’s an issue. I have a category here ‘Victims of the Jugendamt’ which will truly chill your blood as it is authorised, state-sanctioned child abduction inside Germany (http://www.culturedviews.com/the-human-rights-violations-the-eu-bosses-do-not-want-to-know-about-the-child-killing-evil-of-the-german-jugendamt/2009/06/01/view.htm#comments).
Children are blatantly removed from good parents to feed a very lucrative business called ‘fostering/adoption’ – children stolen and secreted in ‘homes’ (which are actually institutions) very often end up dead from abuse within them in between fosterings. Divorced men really have a bad time of it as you will see if you wish to read some of the comments from some Dads who contacted me. Follow some of the links and feel free to contact Micheal Hickman via the link through his name (http://www.ceedza.org/).
Currently an Irish ex-magistrate is working on the Inquiry – he wrote to me and told me that what he has learned about the Jugendamt has made him physically sick. It CAN happen here!
Will spend some time on your links.
hi
it is happening here, i have been working closely with mostly mums from england, mp john hemming lib dem is advising mothers, fathers and parents who face having their child snatched off them to run to the rep of ireland and trust me many have ran.
there is a bonus fund in n.ireland as well for trusts to hit adoption targets and they dont care how they hit it.
to add a bit to the german government here one – legalised peadophila
http://rffjni.blogspot.com/2009/11/germany-legalise-pedophilia.html , i can have the official government books on this and no surprise its over here as well, harriet harman being a old support of this.
really listen and take stock of gerrish and baskerville, they opened the doors to a wider debate and we have been pushing the debate with fathers for justice, as we can and to me the government fear us more than we will ever fear them, they have jailed us, tried to shut us down , threatened us but never stopped us and european groups are following suit.
i managed to get a dr kenedy from canada to come over here to northern ireland interview fathers for his paper on uk family law, he will be here in feb so if you know any dads who have been through family law and are willing to speak pass them onto me and i will be contacting that other fellow you mentioned. also when we finally get the childrens conference going i will be hoping to get baskerville over to speak and gerrish if possible along with every output for children in n.irelnad
welcome to the twilight zone
Believe me the tune to that show has been playing in my mind just lately
I took some links and wrote to the BBC production team of Panorama regarding the story of what is happening in Germany – totally blanked me, totally. Obviously in the too-hard basket; we must not upset the EU boys who know and sanction all this, we must not upset the cart…you get the gist.
Am working on an article regarding your points.
I am fully of the opinion that children are becoming an endangered species…as is fatherhood.
There’s a lot of material provided here Hugh – lots of food for thought. It is all proving to be very interesting…and very sad.
hi
here is a bit more on the german governemnt, i have german pdf versions of the papers
http://news.ronatvan.com/2009/06/20/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/
http://www.tpuc.org/node/151
as i said i went into this area think it was a matter of setting right a few wrongs in family law, the more i researched to get supporting evidence the crazier it gets, nearly afriad to open or read some of what i get sent as its usually worse than what comes in front of it, i have a case file involving child snatching in the rep ireland involving government misters, it would scare the life out of you it can happen
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