Every time I look at one of those pictures of baby Peter Connelly - like this one here – I wonder what his little voice would have sounded like; did he ever giggle or did he just barely manage a tiny smile (like in this photo…) before the reality of his short life set in with the delivery of yet another blow from a nearby fist. Who took these photos of him – who cared enough to bother? we take photos of our children to preserve those very precious moments of their babyhood, their childhood – all those ‘firsts’ and milestones from the day they are born until, well, I am still taking heaps of photo’s of my two eldest grown up sons and cannot see why I would ever stop.
You do it because part of you never wants to let go of that most precious part of them – their childhood. That special time when they had complete and utter faith and confidence in everything you said and did, when they trusted you 100% to never let them down. You do it so that when they are grown up and not calling you everyday, when they are no longer around to ask what’s for dinner each evening and no longer having 100% complete and utter faith and confidence in everything to do and say – that you have a precious and timeless reminder of the times when they did.
Little Peter would have trusted his mother implicitly like all children do, at his murder trial it was said that he was “always wanting cuddles” from a woman who only gave him indifference and a couple of male thugs to live with him where he should have been safe and secure. Even at the height of his agonies he would have only ever wanted his mum…
Today Sharon Shoesmith launched her appeal against her sacking by Haringey Council, still determined to prove ‘it wasn’t her fault’ , still finding justification for the actions of her entire department which oversaw the death of this child. It seems obscene that a woman who was happy to be paid in excess of £133,000.00 a year to ensure that children like Peter were cared for is using the excuse of ‘lack of funds’ to explain why her department failed so dismally to save little Peter. How much money does it cost to pick a child up in your arms and walk out of a house with him…? plenty of money for salaries for pen pushers such as Ms Shoesmith, but none it seems for any real work to be done.
The tragedy is that Peter Connelly will not be the last child to be tormented to death by an unfeeling, unheeding mother – not the last child to be destroyed by a mentally-challenged male that it’s mother has found by the roadside and brought home. And we will hear the same time-worn and feeble excuses that Sharon Shoesmith and councils like Haringey will trot out in their own defence. Nothing they can say will change the fact that Peter was allowed to exist in hell on earth, in conditions that animals in a zoo do not even have to endure. His is a story that cannot be changed because the hard facts, and the actions and non-actions of those adults around him, speak for themselves.
So who took those lovely photo’s of little Peter – and why…? who cared enough to record his sweet little face? there have been enough published to fill a book – one that sadly could have had a different ending, but did not.
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Wendy, I value your comments and I am as incensed at all this as you are, I promise you. I just understand how people’s minds can be warped. I showed your comment to a friend. Here is what she answered:
“God operates only by faith in His Son Jesus Christ, so He does nont just intervene in the affairs of man, woman or child (we are all his creation but not all his children until we come to him in faith).
The Bible says “they must believe HE is and believe He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him”…I’m going to venture to say that these people did NOT have any upbringing knowing HIM. They were not raised with morals and values, if you read the background on all of them…Tracey’s mother slept with a guy that abused her…the guys tortured animals and people at young ages and the one even tortured his own brother. Those things do not make for healthy, balanced adults at ALL! Now, let’s add to that the fact that they all spent hours and hours watching brutal sex scenes, probably horror movies and had maybe loud music blaring while they did drugs.
I study the MIND. Neuromessages produce good and bad outcomes and actions, PERIOD. I could take anyone on this page, give the right stimuli, and make you do something you don’t think you ever would. This is also why people say “Garbage in/Garbage out”…these 3 people were not raised right, did not keep their minds on healthy things nor hang with healthy people…they formed their minds and actions around complete chaos, murder, torture, sexual deviance, so NOTHING they have done surprises me…however, I also find it extremely ABHORRENT, because I do not watch horror movies, listen to super loud music, do drugs, hang with wrong people. I’m in the RIGHT stimuli and was raised being taught EMPATHY! My husband was not…he watched his father torture animals and laugh about it, like it was a game. He watched his siblings be abused and his mom too. He lived with knowledge that one of his sisters was molested and years later, we all found out so was the other one. My husband is NOT BALANCED! So, I know what I’m talking about here.
And just how on earth does a 17 month old baby know anything about ‘seeking Him’ in order to be rescued from his life of hell by the almighty…?
Looks like God is willing to let these children die rather than swallow His pride, get off His royal backside and do some real saving himself…
History has shown that waiting for God to do anything for the human race in times of adversity and catastrophe is a complete and utter waste of time. Maybe sinning adults need to repent but innocent little children who have committed no sin whatsoever…? adults allow them to die from their abuse and God allows the adults to kill them.
Dear Wendy I am doing what Senator Garcia told me to do,i’m putting together some stories along with what yhey looked like befor the abuse and the after math the hardest of all the autopsy photo’s….. In the stories i hae Peter’s story i don’t have a real autopsy photo of him but done on a computer but i do have photo’s of his bloody clothes, it’s one thing to hear about abuse but to see it is a hole new ball game……… In the passed few day’s has been the most hardest and sadest day’s i’v never cryed so much in my life and i could not have done it without my good friend as alot of people know her as J.K.S. she has alot of child abuse video’s on you tube she made one on baby Peter…… She is just such a great person and she e-mail’s me all the info along with the photo’s, it is a very heart breaking thing so see the photo’s but i have to do this if i want to reach these people…… I see all of these angel’s in my children every day,i would like to share with you and everyone who read’s this the story of Max and Saga…. Max 3yrs old his sister Saga 1yrs old were murdered 2yrs ago,on March 17, 2008 a woman named Christina took a trip to Sweden and took 2 things with her, a hammer and anger to kill Max and Saga’s mother when opening the door Christina smiled and then hit Emma in the head 15 time’s 3yr old Max heard his mom’s scream’s and came to help her…. Christina turned on Max with the hammer and then looked for 1yr old Saga and beat her to,Max and Saga’s crime there mother was dating Christina’s xe boy friend and she was not letting him leave her nor would she let anyone stand in her way….. Max and Saga’s mother lived but poor Max and Saga didn’t,Christina got life but the down side to that is in Sweden life is only 12yrs,so in 10yrs Christina will be free while Max and Saga will never again run in the summer’s sun,put there arm’s around there mother,go to school,or have a family of there own…….. So what i would like to know is where is the JUSTICE for the UNJUST, Max and Saga’s autopsy photo’s were the hardest to see, i know that this site is for baby Peter but i just have to share these angel’s stories,for 2 reson’s there stories should be heard and if i hold the stories in it would kill me…….. I dont have anyone that i can go to talk to cause my family dont want to know see nor hear about child abuse they all support me but it hurt’s them to much my mom who is not just my mom but my best friend,she is a CPS worker and has had to deal with child abuse alot and she try’s to listen but want’s a break away from it too….. So i thank you for letting me share this with you and other’s,and Peter i love and miss you my sweet baby boy you have touched so many live’s with your sad and unfair story thank you Peter for your strenth i love you……… (AND A CHILD SHELL LEAD THEM) thank you for your time it took to read this……. Yours Truly A Mother Who Cares Angela Lingle
This area is for ALL children who suffer and die from abuse at the hands of cruel and sadistic adults, so thank you for sharing that shocking story here because these things should not be hidden away and forgotten. This is what authorities would rather – they would rather people did not know and that these children suffer and die for nothing. The reason I write about such issues here is because I want people to realise the problem will not go away simply by blocking one’s ears and refusing to listen. These children suffer in silence already, we cannot ignore their stories, to do that is to be compliant in what is happening. I admire very much what you are doing, stay strong and keep up the great work
60 chances to save peter…… whatt the hell where they looking for….they new peter was abused…. they saw him with bruises…and he was redrawn…everybody failed him…. i feel deeply sorry for this little boy…… even the neigbers heard him crie for ours……and banging his head to his cot
i hope all those people who failed him can live with themselves………
There is a child that screams in pain in the apt right next to us. It is heart wrenching. It seems like the only life this little child knows is pain, sorrow and abandonment. If this child ever grows up he will be one messed up adult. I have called the sheriff in more than one occasion. But they do nothing. They have came out twice. First time nobody answer the door and the 2nd time they said that somebody told them that the child is suffering from colic. This has been going on for about a year. I have called child protective services and they told me there was nothing they could or would do since I have not actually seen abuse. I said something like you have to wait til he is dead before you will do something the person got indignant and threatened to hang up on me. That really pissed me off this person was more concerned about how I talked with him more than the welfare of a child. I am not sure what to do
You must keep reporting your concerns! if this poor child cries and screams constantly try and record what you are hearing – do you have a mobile phone or a tape recorder…? there must be some authority you can contact – try the local hospital and maybe the local school…ask them who they contact when they have concerns about a child’s welfare. Don’t give up on this child – you might be their only hope. Please keep me informed about this.
Wendy I couldn’t agree with you more. Religion had nothing to do with this boy’s death. There are so many many people who are GOD fearing and religious as ever yet sexual abuse, beat and torture their children. Even murder people. The bible thumpers needs to shut up and stop acting like this is all due too people not believing in GOD. This had to do with sick people who don’t believe in basic human compassion and decency. You have to believe in that before you can believe in anything else.
And this boy lived in pure torture, fear, loneliness and filth his entire life. Where was GOD when his bones were being broken, his face beaten. Where was he?
We are the only ones who can protect these children and we failed little Peter. The human beings of this earth left Peter to suffer and die a horrible death. Human beings (who very well believed in god) walked into that boys life with the job of protecting him and left them there to die. They failed him. If GOD exists well then he failed him too.
The entire social services system needs complete reform. Doctors have to take an oath to ‘do no harm’ – police take an oath to uphold the law – the military take an oath to defend their country – why should social workers not also take an oath to protect above all else and to the exclusion of everything else, the life of a child…?
To date not one child has been saved by any ‘god’ stepping in – any child who survives a life that little Peter had survives through sheer luck.
I too believe the entire so-called ‘child protection system’ needs to be not just overhauled but replaced with a model that actually works. What is a social welfare system that pays it’s directors vast salaries in return for failures, excuses and unaccountability? what good is a child protection officer who does not protect a child…? we are expected to sympathise with social workers and people like Sharon Shoesmith when their charges, like baby Peter, end up murdered – we should be congratulating them for saving lives, not asking why they stood by and watched them be destroyed.
God didn’t fail him. He saved him from them, by taking him away from them. Now he is safe and sound from these terrible people.
Oh what rubbish, please spare me this shit.
A better way to have been ‘saved’ would have been for him to have been born to someone else, or been adopted, he deserved a life…that child died a long slow painful death and your god is a son-of-bitch for allowing it.
Wendy,
I agree with you. Social Services needs to take an oath to protect children in these cases. Theyre are too many children who live in homes where they are abused neglected and much more. Its sickening and I can’t believe that Social Services allows these children to stay there.
Alisha
Exactly. Nobody is protecting these children.
I regret to be the one to tell you this LB, but your absolutism is very narrow-minded and consistent with that of religious fundamentalists. I can tell you from first hand experience that drug use (marijuana), sexual deviency (premarital sex) and heavy metal (Slayer) are not the root causes of evil. The nonchelaunt attitude of, ‘well if they had only accepted Jesus into their lives’ us utter crap. Wendy nailed it on the head, where IS God when he/she is needed most? It is the responsibiliy of members of society to gaurd each other and stop relying on omnipotent beings. Get off of your knees and stop praying and be proactive, YOU can make the difference in someone else’s life instead.
Wendy, I was referring to the adults back when they were still children, certainly NOT to the baby. He could not choose one way or the other and I believe is in heaven in the arms of God.
I was saying that when Tracey and the men were children, they should have been brought up with morals and values and Godliness.
Nothing that happened to Peter was his fault. NO WAY! I’d have to be as psychopathic as the others to even imply such a thing!
They should have been but they weren’t – and I have known dyed-in-the-wool churchgoers who thumped their bible at all who would listen and yet took to their children with a closed fist behind closed doors. This is why I am very unconvinced about the whole god-thing even though I was raised Roman Catholic, went to church each Sunday – I believe Christian is as Christian does.
Morals and values are one thing for sure – respect for your fellow human beings is just as important.
Wendy, While I understand where everyone’s anger comes from towards God, I do agree also that it is our choice as humans what happens to these babies. This does not make me want to disbelieve though. I do not think it has anything to do with being “saved”. We as human beings were given free will. Guess what causes the deaths of these kids like this? You got it. Free will. Wouldn’t you say as a christian yourself it seems, that this is true? My point is that if the ADULTS were truly children of God, there isn’t a chance in hell they would have hurt that child. AND fact of the matter is that HURTING OF ANY SORT in the name of GOD does NOT make a person Christian. God would not want that, it’s that simple. Humans did it, humans have to fix it.
I think that peters story was cruel and sickening…..I agree with heidi. They should be beat as well as that pour boy who deserved nothing but love and care. As do all children out there. Children are precious and like little dolls.
Now, I think that cruelty is just wrong. It makes me want to vomit on whime ever may bring it. It sicks and disturbing. The one of many thing s on this world I can not stand is child abuse. t just gross…..Now that pour boy could have been a smart succesful boy whos dreams or life was ruined by someone who was not succesful and scum…..r.i.p Peter…..x)
I totally agree with you. I was raised Catholic as well and knew people who were hypocritical. That’s way too common. Even the 2 priests in our parish molested children at one point I guess.
I’m sure not saying that wearing a label makes someone something.
It takes a relationship with Jesus that is evidenced by ACTIONS that are consistent and pure.
There is a good deal of philosophical rhetoric going on here. Bottom line, Tracey Connolly and people like her should never have children. Years ago, if you were so screwed up that you could not take care of or provide for your children, your children were placed with stable people who could properly care for them. In today’s permissive welfare culture, anything goes and God forbid the well being of the child comes before mom’s right to her benefits. Children like Peter have become commodities to people like Tracey who dont wish to work and men like Baker who sponge off of them. In a sense, Peter and his sisters supported three abusive adults. Peter was tortured and killed for it.
Its sickening. This little boys face is etched into my soul. How could anyone NOT love him.
It is wrong what we are allowing to happen to these kids. Welfare may be good for the Traceys of the world but not so good for the Peters.
Mary that is about the best summation of this whole tragic, sickening story I have read so far to date. It has all gone so wrong – what started out as a means to assist mothers to feed their children has now become the sole motive for breeding indiscriminately with no thought or intention to actually care for the child that comes out of the act. The Govt’s have also learned how much of a vote spinner the welfare class have proven to be – get the dregs on the payroll, give them what they want and they will vote for you again. Get enough of ‘em and you’re on an election winner!
You know what I would like to see…? a benefit payment for each unmarried female starting at the age of 13 and paid each month until the age of 25 that she stays UNpregnant. Do it the other way around, instead of paying them to breed, pay and reward them NOT to! it could make a difference.
With the Govt’s encouragement babies have become not only a meal ticket but a means to an end.
I like your comment Mary – it has hit the nail on the head.
I cant believe the tragic story of baby peter it is so horrible to think those three people thought it would been a good idea to torture a 17 month old child and the worst is to kill him i really wonder what good they thought they were doing and best yet. They thought they could get away with it very wrong indeed i hope all three fry for what they done.
poor baby peter we all will miss him very much if only something was done well before he died he would still be here but now he is with the angels and forever and always in our hearts.
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Wendy,it makes me crazy. We the tax payers want our tax monies to clothe, feed and care for the baby Peters, not the slovenly Traceys and the leeching, parasitic boyfriends that surely come in tow. Hence the outrage that Peter’s abuse happened right under the eyes of Social services.
It explains why Tracey went to such lengths to hide Peter’s injuries and abuse. If her children were taken away, eventually her benefits would be taken as well. Even this pig realized that then her “lover” would leave soon after…in search of another single mom with a crash pad and some kids he could knock around. How do people NOT see this?
The system is screwed and has become totally convoluted. I love the idea of paying these girls NOT to get pregnant, it would prevent so much suffering. Of course you are dead right about the politicans pandering for the votes of these dregs…they arent worried about a little child in a filthy diaper, in a filthy home, scrounging for old pizza crust off the floor at 3am while mom and her new boyfriend get drunk and smoke crack…all on the taxpayer dime.
This HAS to change. We have to hold people accountable.
I think too that a benefit for these girls to avoid pregnancy could be the answer because there is no doubt, over here at least, that they have these babies simply to get a lifestyle handed to them on a plate. One girl wrote to me, and I have seen this quoted in the media, that on her estate alone, the young girls start sleeping around at the age of 14 with the sole intent of getting pregnant, getting out of school and securing a flat and a paycheck. I read a story recently about a truly appalling 16 year old who was living in a park in a makeshift tent with her Polish ‘boyfriend’ and they were ‘having sex several times a day, everyday’ so that she could get pregnant and get them a council flat. Neither worked, both on the dole and the boyfriend smoked pot when they weren’t procreating. Into this scenario an innocent baby stands to enter. What sort of govt allows this let alone encourages it? we have an entire subculture of teenage females who have their eyes firmly on one thing – scrounging off the taxpayer for the rest of their lives. That a baby needs a loving, nurturing environment is never in their minds. I am all for benefits for those who truly need them – but it has clearly gone too far. They want the money – give it to them, but for NOT being pregnant!
Us taxpayers should not have to fork out for these feckless people at all, but what other answer is there…? I would rather see these babies not born at all and if it takes my taxes to achieve this then so be it.
I have the divine privilege of being a Mom, my beautiful charismatic son is soon going to be a year old. I sat here tonight at my computer and seen the video of baby Peter and cried like I never have in my life, tears streamed down my face like never before. My heart aches like it’s been ripped out and trampled on a hundred times, the first thing I did after reading the unbearable story of baby Peter was run upstairs to my sons room lifted his soundly sleeping delicate little body and I held him so close to me rocking him back and forth crying and asking why? why? I looked down at my sons little sleeping face and kissed it and thought of you baby Peter
You needed a Mommy to love you unconditionally, to teach you how to love, to kiss your bumps and bruises when you fall..not to cause them…you needed a Mommy to sing you to sleep at night, to hug and kiss and cuddle you every time she saw you, to make you giggle and laugh, and to watch you become a teenage boy and help you grow strong and teach you morals and respect, to guide you through life knowing that no matter what you would always have a loving Mother that would do anything for you no matter what……this woman that allowed this to happen to you my dear child was no Mother, she doesn’t deserve that title!! I am from a small town in Canada and around me I see the same that you do Wendy and Mary…..I see people having children for the wrong reasons….and unfortunately here to, the more children you have the fatter the welfare check is, it’s sad the way our economy has grown, just the other day a friend of mine lost her job due to the company shutting down, without enough hours for maternity leave… her baby girl was on the way in a few months and with her husbands income they still couldn’t make ends meet, she being almost nine months pregnant couldn’t find other work and last resort went to welfare to get help…..they refused her…told her “well your husband works” I mean can you believe that, and then I look just down the road from me at a Mother only 17 or 18 years of age milking welfare with her 5th child on the way!! Is their any justification in that?? The world needs more Mary’s and Wendy’s of the world to stand up and make a difference in this messed up ridiculous world, I myself will never stop talking of baby Peter and other children like him that have suffered to extremities because they need a voice stronger than ever now to speak for them and let people know that this could be happening to a child in your neighborhood or across town and to watch out for signs of any child abuse or neglect, because when it comes to the children of the world we shouldn’t take any chances!! And as for a comment I read earlier about God stepping in and taking baby Peter to heaven to stop his pain…my dear…if their was an almighty loving god, he would not have allowed the pain and torture baby Peter went through to have even began….I think people need to wake up and realize that it’s the coward inside of them that chooses to believe that god will set us free, and if everyone would just believe that it’s them themselves that have to change the world…not god…. then maybe the world would be a better place!!!!! RIP baby Peter, and all the other baby Peters of the world, and thank-you from the bottom of my heart Wendy for sharing this story!!
Thankyou for sharing your thoughts and experiences with us here Rachel. It is so sad that at a time in human history, when science has made it far less likely for children to die at an early age from childhood diseases and when people have such a higher standard of living and education, that our children are dying from something as tragic as lack of care and love. Children are dying in third world countries from hunger and disease and yet in our societies, where we have everything we could want materially, so many of our kids cannot have the most basic thing as a mothers love and protection. It makes you despair it really does.
It is the same scenario over here. These girls aspire to get pregnant so they can get section 8 housing, food stamps, free health care, free cell phones, and a nice check every month. It is a lifestyle that they want to achieve. Zero thought to the poor babies or what it takes to really care for one. Real mothers want to give the world to their kids! I worry about college, giving my kids a good start….not these girls. These kids are a means to an end. Partying, sleeping around and sleeping in!
It is a pervasive condition. I dont think the social workers in P’s case were particularly caring or competant but I dont think they were necessarily evil either….the problem is, they see SO MANY children living in conditions like P, they have become desensitized to it. It is commonplace to see dirty, neglected kids living with these women, it becomes difficult when the courts and the system do not back taking them away. It is a horrible situation.
I dont think any of us want to see children on the streets but this is quite harmful to them too. We cannot reward irresponsible breeding and parenting. It is criminal. We have a nasty term over here….its “F*#k trophy” and thats all these little ones are to these people. I despise them.
I watched the video and couldn’t even finish watching it. I couldn’t sleep last night thinking about what that child suffered. It makes me want to hurt those people the way that they hurt baby Peter and really make them suffer. I can’t get the pictures and images out of my mind!
It does help to think that he is in a better place. His heavenly father is loving on him and he is happy. I know not everyone agrees, but I also believe that God was with him every moment of his time here on earth.
I also believe that God created people to have free will–and tragically, this is what someone did with their free will. There were so many people that could have intervened, but didn’t! God didn’t let this happen–they did. There is so much suffering in this world because PEOPLE choose to do bad things.
Have peace now, baby Peter. You are loved.
why did they hurt him seriously look at the pictures that just wrong!!!!!
because they were satanists, that’s why. Satanists see humans as objects to do with as they choose. Since slicing a person’s fingers does not directly hurt a satanist himself, and he sees the person as an OBJECT, he can do such a thing with no pain himself, no remorse, no sorrow, sympathy, nor EMPATHY!
Anyone who could harm another person severely, lacks conscience, mental stability, and empathy.
Am I justifying ??? NOOOOOOOOOO! Am I explaining the mindset of the insane and Godless, yes, exactly! It also involves another spirit entering another person’s body, but I won’t go into that at this time. (I have cast them out of people. Trust me, I know they exist and they don’t care who they hurt nor how!)
Ok, first of all…where was God? He saw the whole thing, He was watching…God gives people the right to do what they choose, even though He knows what they choose. That’s not how I’d do things if I were Him, but I’m not. Now, knowing that, also realize that God gave people brains to protect children in abuse situations. What happened in this case, was that, once the abuse began (done by SATANISTS, not God-honoring people), the SYSTEM FAILED PETER. The social service people LOST HIS FILE by LEAVING IT ON A SUBWAY!!! That was NOT GOD’S FAULT…you are blaming the wrong being! Some people are EVIL, period. If I were to blame God, I’d blame Him for not closing up Tracey’s womb to begin with and for allowing her to ever have children in her care! Misplaced blame on God will not change anything, will not undo what was done, will not bring precious Peter back…and BACK TO WHAT??? More abuse? Even when they COULD get him out and DID, they PUT HIM BACK THERE. Who I AM FURIOUS with is THE SOCIAL SERVICE PEOPLE AND THE TORTURERS OF THAT BABY!
~LB
to the person who told me to “get off my knees” and become proactive, I do not usually pray “on my knees” and I AM being proactive. I am working toward getting my degree in Psychology to hopefully help people not become what Tracy and those men were. I am doing what I can but I will NOT blame God for human cruelty. He is LOVE, not torture, murder, pain. That, is associated with a lesser being, named SATAN and with fleshly SIN. And please, if you want to call me a “fundamentalist” that’s a label I will bear, but I am FAR FROM religious. I have a personal relationship with Jesus, not a man-made, rules and regulations, idolatrous “praying to other gods” one. I despise the very word “religion!”
Any mention of a ‘god’ in any of this is futile and a waste of time. ‘God’ -whoever and whatever that is – is a figment of the individual imagination, ‘it’ is whatever you want it to be. What is certain is that despite this children will continue to be abused and killed and only people can do anything about it. Enough prayers have been said since time immemorial for this ‘god’ to have done something but…well I’m still waiting and kids sill die.
There are plenty of theories to explain why women allow their own children to be abused and killed and none of it has anything to do with a ‘god’ – nothing does in my opinion. Lets deal in reality here, not time-worn fairytales.
i believe in god and yes i agree with ye when ye say were was he when this little boy was been battered but where is the justice the people who done this and the social workers who give him back to his mother should be given a long and painfull death,bastards. rest in piece little one,you will always be in my toughts you should of had a happy and longer life then what you had.
I will continue to make mention of my God. I am not ashamed. He is the One who saved ME from years of abuse as a child. Why doesn’t He stop this? Because He CAN’T, that’s why.
As far as humans being the only ones who can do anything, I agree that people need to stop making excuses for not calling child abuse authorities, police, etc. I have always been a whistle-blower even on my OWN abuse and I will always be a human who is involved in saving these children and adult-children. I AM doing what I can to help but I’m also not leaving God out of my vocabulary or my life, sorry. My theory is, ok, this stuff goes on WITH God…without Him YIPES!
Fine – but he is ‘yours’ so please keep him to yourself…
no can do, Wendy. He told me to “go into ALL the world” not keep Him to myself.
Well, it is just that you’re boring us – that’s the problem with fanatics, religious and otherwise…only THEY see the point of their obsession, nobody else does. This is not a site for preaching about religion so please keep to the topic and keep religious icons out of it – there is nothing more boring.
I just got off the phone with another Godly woman who I asked the question of “WHere was God in this situation of Peter’s torture/death?” What she said was interesting …she said “God only moves by faith…if nobody knew that child was in trouble and nobody was praying for him, that explains why this went on unstopped.”
Ok first of all, I HATE the word “RELIGION” and please STOP calling me that or referring to me having anything to do with it. I have a relationship with Jesus, period. And, unless you are the moderator of this group, I have a right to speak in any way I choose about this or any given topic.
Laura, we are discussing Baby Peter here not your god or Jesus or whatever and this is not a platform for you to do so. You do retain the right to speak about what you like but others also have the right to not want to hear it. Once again this is not a platform for people to spout about relationships with Jesus, God, Allah, Buddha or whatever unless the topic calls for it. I wont go on any further because I have lived with a ‘saved’ person in the past and to argue or otherwise only encourages them further.
I am the moderator and owner of this site and I’d like to keep this forum interesting…and secular.
Well, since you have informed me that this is your site, I respect that. I will say only one more thing. Paul, after rebuking an elder in the Bible, when realizing he WAS in a high position, backed down. I do likewise at this point, out of respect for your position only.
My position only is to keep this darn site interesting enough for people to want to read – some do, some don’t – but as the issues surrounding this poor baby are so sensitive and heartbreaking I just feel it would be too easy to go off onto other tangents and forget what really matters and that is this little boy and his story. He has been embraced by so many people around the world, it is incredible. That’s what I like to see. Words are so often empty.
to whom ever said, “baby peter wasnt saved because there wasn’t prayer” OMG who are you? One sick individual. He was helpless, defenseless, and only wanting love from the one person whom bore him. How does that say” he didn’t have prayer”? Baby Peter was just that, a baby. Who takes it upon themselves to beat, torture, and kill a baby just because there isn’t prayer? Are you hiding something yourself?
This is getting crazy and Wendy, I agree, not a place for preaching. I guess some people need to neatly explain away how an innocent baby was tortured, starved and neglected….and boy will those bad folks get theirs in the end!
Please. Those scum are eating 3 meals a day, playing cards and watching tv all day.
It is up to US to save these abused kids and up to US to send a message to the politicians that we want true justice for their abusers.
Ok, first of all, there have been quite a few misunderstandings of my posts. The lady I talked to did not say Peter was not saved because people did not pray, specifically in that way. She was saying that the entire situation was full of ungodly people, period, with nobody doing anything godly. Now, that was her comment.
Next, please stop acting like because I was explaining the psychological mindset of abusers, that I don’t care about what happened. I DO CARE! I DID CARE! and I am infuriated that Tracey and those other two are not being kept behind bars FOREVER!!! What happened to Peter was terrifying, horrendous, beyond awful and evil. I am AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEING WITH YOU ALL ON THAT!
But there ARE reasons that people’s consciences are not tormented and allow them to do those things, whether you want to believe that or not…and THAT was my first point…Tracey and those guys were the FIRST ONES AS CHILDREN who should have been dealt with. They should have gotten help way back when, and been watched like a hawk. They never should have been allowed to even HAVE children in that home or any other. The problem was, according to what I read, nobody seemed to know that the men were living with her??? Have you read that too? How does a social service worker or 80 or 60 of them, NOT KNOW THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON IN A HOME? Even the condition of the home should have been enough to get ALL the children out of there!!! And KEEP them out!
The ENTIRE SITUATION should not ever have happened, period!!! and neither should the others that are STILL happening, due to a rotten social service system of people who “don’t want to get involved” or ” break up FAMILIES” SOME “FAMILIES” NEED TO BE BROKEN UP!!!
i agree with your comments fully, i am on a social work course at the moment, i am finding it very hard and demanding, but i am doing this to make a difference to all those children who need help and i will do my best to protect the vulnerable. i will be thorough in my investigastions and strive to do the best child protection social worker that i can be. Baby Peter and all those other darling children are my inspiration. Rest In Peace my sweet little darling I love you. XXXXXX
Okay, Laura and Whitney – you are both SPAMMED! any further comments will go down under the ‘delete’ button.
In fact I have logged both your IP’s – yours Whitney as 68.201.41.67 and yours Laura as 173.26.170.39…yes, I am able to track both of you to where you are believe me. Each time you post a comment here your computer leaves more info than you believe…
and I shall simply report both of you for posting child porn links here – I get a lot of that and I report every single one. You can both deal with the consequences. Take your god-shit and shove it.
Religious fanatics – they should all be put to death.
Good. They are not in touch with reality.
Hi Mary, one thing I have found with some of these so-called ‘saved’ that I have encountered from time to time is how aggressive they can be which to me says ‘fanatic’…and fanatics are always tinged with danger in my opinion. I have also seen how religious fanatics have been shown to be horrendous child abusers; they are great at meting out physical abuse and punishments all in the name of ‘salvation’. There are quite a few of these ‘christians’ in prison for what they have done to innocent children and there they should rot – fat lot of good their ‘god’ is to them there…
And you are correct – they are totally out of touch with reality – Stephen Barker is supposed to be a ‘convert’ to Jehovahs Witness now…just shows how religion provides an excuse for sadists to escape justice. We are not fooled though…
Two weeks back, I had a dream where the b@stard stepfather Steven Barker was sitting on my couch and I am trying to pull out an iron rod from under my bed to knock him dead but the rod was getting stuck … & I was yelling & grunting in my sleep, so much that my son started crying & I couldnt sleep the rest of the night. I felt the hatred ,anger & disgust I felt the very first time I read about baby Peter in UK in Nov 2008 in the MIRROR paper when I was travelling to work in the bus, a sick feeling in my stomach that lasted for 2-3 months & uncontrollable tears, it even affected my work…
its changed my life & made me love my son more & more with each passing day …
RIP baby Peter, I want to kiss & hug U forever if I see U in Heaven…
I feel the same way, this story too made me even more aware of how important it is too make our children aware of how much they are loved and that they feel secure. I think Peter has touched more lives than we will ever know about.
Please note: hence forth no comments regarding religion or gods of any kind will be accepted into this discussion. There are plenty of sites elsewhere to discuss whatever faith you have and whichever ‘god’ you choose to follow – you just wont be able to do it here and all attempts will be spammed. This is about little Peter, not fairytales – show some respect.
I am so glad you stopped that! I was reading through all these posts and started getting so frustrated! There is NO EXCUSE at all for hurting a child, religion or lack of. no child should suffer for any reason. I use all my social networking pages to put out child abuse awareness. like others on here when i heard peters story it made me so sick. the same night i heard about it i grabbed my two youngest sons and kept them both in my bed with me and just stared at them for hours thinking if anyone ever laid a hand on my kids it would be the last thing they ever do! tracey connely should suffer the most considering she should have been peter’s prtector and she failed! she was just plain selfish. it was all about her keeping the welfare money for having him. she should have just given him to his father if she didn’t want him! even though they did not love you baby Peter, I do and I always will!
Dear Wendy you are so right this is about Peter not God not the Devil or what people belive,i myself will not wast my time on the MONSTERS who did this to him Peter is my son now and i love miss and think of him along with to many other’s……….. I’m still in my fight against this ugly thing called child abuse and i will never stop fighting for my babies,no longer shell they not be heard cause i have a BIG mouth and i’m not afraid to use it…………. I think that if you need a license to drive a car then a law should be passed that you should need a licenses to have a baby along with both parties should be married,do a custodial evaluation,an alcohol/drug evaluation,parenting classes,and a CPS backround check and a run threw the house…… And if they pass then they get the license to get pregnant,as a mother i would kill and die for my kid’s so i just don’t understand how a parent can harm or allow someone to do anything to there children……… I check my babies like 20 time’s a night to make sure that there breathing and that there ok i don’t leave my babies with no one but my mom and if she can’t do it then i take them with me or i don’t go,how i look at it is my children did not ask to be born nor did they ask for me to be there mother so i owe them they don’t owe me when i chose to start a family that is when i put my life on hold……… As far as going to parties,spending the night out,or just thinking of me, my kid’s think that i’m there hero but really they are mine…… I thought that you might like to know that back in Dec. of 2009 i called Senator Mary Jane Garcia to help me change child abuse and she finelly called me back,i want to thank you Wendy for signing my petition you were the first person to sign and i will hold you forever in my heart for loving these Angels so much to help make a difference i will up date you on what happen’s with the Senator………. To my sweet Peter i hold you in my heart,mind,and soul i love and miss you we will be together some day untill then my sweet baby boy i shell see you in my dream’s……….. Yours Truly A Mother Who Cares Angela Lingle
Hi Angela – now there’s something that I do have time for…angels, they are something different altogether. Peter is one now as are all the innocents who are with him. I am happy your efforts are being rewarded, do please stay in touch and let us know how it goes.
I just want to make sure they never get out of prison to abuse another defensless child. WE need to write to our congress person and say make the penalty fit the crime, if you injury a child you will pay, if you can’t take care of your child we will find someone who will. WE need to stop paying for people to have children and give them to someone who will take care of them. WE need to make sure no chld is abused again,
Dear Wendy well i talked to Senator Garcia yesterday and she said that she can’t have any law’s changed here,but she told me to call my Senator and give my Senator her cell and home number……… She will talk to her for me to try to get her to start up a bill,and to tell my Senator that it is my idea and what i’m asking for so my friend Wendy i’m one step closer then what i was in Dec. 2009 i must crawl befor i can walk………. But all it take’s is one person who care’s enough to make a change, and i care about my angel babies they did not die in vain i don’t care what you or anyone else belive’s………. It’s not about God the Devil or Heaven and Hell it’s about taken a stand fighting for the (Silenced Angelas) to put a stop to this UGLY thing called child abuse the only thing that should be a debate is why is this still happening to our children,one is to many but from what i’v seen it’s sick and it has to stop………. So for anyone who would like to help and try to make a difference then wright be back if not then by pass,i don’t have time to debate about God cause my belife’s are just that what i belive no one has the right to push there belife’s on to anyone eles we have what’s called (free choice) meaning that we can belive what we want to……….I don’t care what you belive Wendy to me you are a good person and you truly do care about our Angels,so to every one eles leave my friend Wendy alone stop getting into her bizz and put your time on trying to stop CHILD ABUSE come on dose it really matter what your belife’s are to save a child (let it go) move on to what dose matter on this site……Remembering Peter and standing together and try to stop this help me to keep our children safe……….. Peter this mommy love’s and misses you so very much sweet baby boy,i promies you and all my other angel babies that i will fight for you’s i will be your voice’s never again will you’s stand in the dark i love you Peter OXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX……….Yours Truly A Mother Who Cares Angela Lingle
Brilliant news! we wont give up the fight !!!
Dear Wendy how can i give up on the fight if a person said that they care then they can’t just sit around and do nothing,cause i know that i can’t even if i die befor i ever have a bill passed i will die trying to………..And that’s what matter’s the most,what people don’t realize is that all of these babies/children belong to all of us they are our future and it’s are duty to keep them safe,we must be there teacher,friend,and there safe haven…………. I love my babies and it is such an horon to be a mother there mother,so for evey one who will read this hug your children tell them how much you love them live each day as if it’s your last cause for most tomorrow will never come thank you for taken the time to read this…………… Yours Truly A Mother Who Cares Angela Lingle
Do you have a website besides the petition? – if not you need one so that you can recruit more people to join the cause.
i would join,ive 3 girls of my own and to think this is happening to inocnent little children makes me sick they didnt ask to be born into the world today was my first time hearing about little peter and in sick sence i did people who do this should suffer
Wendy, I just want to ask if there is anything new with these monsters? Are they dead yet, I mean did someone beat them until they couldnt take anymore and come back everyday over the next few months and “cause or allow” the death of them? I read all the messages on here, as Im sure any one person who truly cares does. I go to other pages on facebook and see Peter. I do love that little baby, and I see him in my 14mo baby boy. I wish over and again I could have for some reason been in london and saved that baby. Did baby Peter have a middle name? Did he ever get to play with his sisters, I know playing for him would have been so hard on his little tattered body. I dont understand and I cant understand. I know there are millions of baby’s, toddlers, children going thru this, but Peter for some reason I just cant let go of. He is in my thoughts daily, and I wouldnt have it anyother way. I just dont understand why Iam so connected with him? Maybe because with me I know he would have been safe, and had my four children playing and laughing with him. I love you Baby Peter, I would have been there for you no matter what had I known. You are in my thoughts everyday, and I see your smiling little face. R.I.P Baby Peter, I will be here sending you hugs and kisses. Wendy: Could you keep me updated on those three pathetic wastes of space? I hope the rest of their time in prison and on earth is everyday worse than miserable. And please, if Baby Peter had a middle name, I’d love to know what it is.
Sheila, this little boy touched something deep within many, many people and I still hear from people who still think about him every day even though he died almost three years ago. Had he lived he would have been just another blue-eyed, blonde haired child but his fate has set him apart and it remind us of how fragile these little people are. I think he knows he is remembered by so many people and that is probably why you cannot forget him…he is possibly there with you at times, looking for a happy, safe place to be
I had a file photo of Peter as a newborn in hospital with his little ID card stating date of birth, weight and name. I had two actually – one published while he was still known as ‘P’ and one when the details were revealed and his full name is noted (I seem to have deleted this photo) and I am almost certain his middle name was John – Peter John Connelly. Now I just might have that wrong, but the name John sticks in my mind.
We don’t get told much about what is happening to his killers in prison; his mother Tracey Connelly is said to be in the queue for a new identity when she is released from prison, she shows no remorse to date and she was writing letters to an acquaintance talking about her plans to have ‘lot’s of fun and travel the world’ when she gets out of prison. One wonders if she even remembers that she had a little boy…
Stephen Barker has been attacked twice in his prison; once he was beaten and recently he had boiling sugar syrup thrown in his face by a fellow prisoner and he is said to be severely scarred. He is understood to be a marked man in prison so I’d say he would be looking over his shoulder for his entire sentence.
So far nothing has emerged regarding his brother Jason Owen-Barker.
Thank you Wendy for telling me baby Peters middle name. The last I read, Steven Barker had boiling hot water, possibly with sugar in it throw in his face (which wasnt enough and he deserves so much more) but do you know if they are going to be released with identity changes, and all the protection that Baby Peter didnt get? Thank you Wendy for being here answering all the questions that we have. So many what if’s and why not’s, no one will truly know but Baby Peter.
Too all the lady’s on here who have seen or heard the story about baby peter connelly. today 25/04/2010 was my very first time i have become aware of this sick and shocking story. I am a mum of two beautiful children, one is 5 and now have a wee man, he is 8 months old.
I can’t get it out of my head why his mother would let such a bloody sick thing like that happens to him. when after all she was the one who carried him for 9 months and had to do the hard work of giving birth to him. now if she came come this far and still keep him, then why the HELL don’t she walk out with him. If she was a woman that couldn’t handle him and didn’t want a child at that time of her life, then why didn’t she give him to a couple or a person who would love to have a baby more then any thing . there are women out there today who would love to have a baby because they can’t have them there self.
I have been a lady who went to church for quit a while and then stop going because i found god was not doing any thing for me been a solo mother with a baby. some of the people at the church who did no i was a solo mother and not marred but with child looked at me so strangely and didn’t make me feel very welcome. Been looked down a pone is wrong, as they don’t no you or your life story, so there for I don’t believe god was any help for this little peter at all as if he was he would of never let him come in to the world to such a BAD SICK HORRIBLE family like them.
these poor helpless baby and children that get bought in to the world by evil sick people like them, do not ask to be born at all.
Sharon, you and your baby are all that matters – you belong to each other and let no-one ever come between you. Just enjoy your child and everything that being a mother entails; the rewards are endless. Your child is the only thing that truly belongs to you – I wish you both every happiness.
Wendy,
thank you so much for that lovely replay. I love my two children with all my heart and all ways will. I could NEVER EVER do any thing to hurt a bone on there little body’s.
late night all i could do was hold my baby boy and tell him that mummy would never let any one hurt him in any way and the same with his sister as well. I am finding it hard to get it out of my head the sick and nasty things that wee peter went through every day and night until he went to haven. it brakes my heart in to a million piece and will all way come back to why did he do it and what was going through his head when he did all those nasty things to him.
It also brings back the merry of the wee two year old girl in the north Island of NZ where her stepfather and unlace abused her day in and day out with COLD COLD baths of Ice water and then put her in the washing machine and then hang her out to dry. and when she came round she was thrown around her room until she stop crying. it bought so many treats to my country to relies how bloody sick some people can really be. this wee girls monther new what was happening and did nothing about it. the people next door to where she lived did nothing about it ether. every one was so scared to speak out in cause they got punished too.
I will never for get that year and now i will never for get baby P.
your truly Sharon.
I have an idea I remember that case about that little girl as the details are very familiar – being Australian I am sure I recall it being in our newspapers some years back. That bit about her being hung on the clothes line…that rings a bell and I remember feeling so sick when I heard about it.
These children who do manage to survive – you wonder how they do it when you consider the lives they are born into. Just hold your babies close and be there for them. They depend on us and we owe them everything…right throughout their lives. We never get a day off from being ‘mummy’ until the day we die. It is a job that lasts our whole lives.
Wendy, The little girl i was telling you about how died in NZ was ( Nia Glassie ) she was a three year old little girl who was beaten to death and much more. there was around 5 people in this one though and all of them are going to the high Cort in NZ to be jailed for her death. she was kicked, punched, slammed against wells and put in a bath that was fit for no human to survive and then put in a dryer to be span around the hang out to dry. they would all so make her stand naked in the poring rain for three hours strate and then through her of the house balcony to the grand below. Here in NZ you do not get away with any thing as sick and bad as this. She was a very beautiful little girl in Deed.
do you know if the three that went up for Peters death was jailed and what is happening to the stepfather. I have tried to fine out but it is not giving me the info i would like to know. these three need to go to jail and stay there for ever.
If you go to the categories on the home page at the top and click on ‘Justice for Baby Peter’ you will have a lot of articles to choose from where you can read about the story and the court case – Ive covered it well. Basically the mother is jailed indefinitely but wont spend more than five years in prison by my knowledge, Tracey Connelly will also qualify for a whole new identity when she is released to protect her – this will cost the taxpayer millions of pounds.
Stephen Barker – who was the main abuser and who also was said to deliver the fatal punch to Peter in his cot – got ‘life’ (ten years) and 12 years for the rape of Peters two year old sister. If he serves more than 12 altogether I will be very surprised. He has been attacked twice in prison as he has a price on his head, the last time he got boiling syrup thrown in his face and is said to have been facially scarred for life.
His brother Jason Owen-Barker got three years for his part in it all and for not assisting the child.
They should have all been hanged.
Here’s a link : http://www.culturedviews.com/tracey-connolly-gets-minimum-five-year-prison-term-stephen-barker-gets-life-sentence/2009/05/22/view.htm
I just want to know when social services is going to wake up and protect the children. I just want to know where the common sense factor is when will they define what abuse really is. If the house is dirty is that abuse, if the kids are dirty or hungry is that abuse if a child has multiple bruises or broken bones. Yes I would say. But a child that is cuddled too long. NOT…
Dear Wendyi have put child abuse on hold for now, do to on April 12,2010 on a monday my life was turned upside down…. My dad Herb Lingle was in a fatal bike crash, he hit into a tractor and even if he lived threw it he was dead anyways (brain dead) and anyone who knew my dad when know the he would never want to live that way….. It’s been very hard on the hole family my mom well there are no words to that i can say nor write to tell yous how she fells… It was a wrongful death and the mandriving the tractor is at falt for blocking the hole road leaving my dad no where to go to…. My dad is a good driver him and my mom every yr have gone on bike runs more then one a yr,and now we are left to pick up the broken pecese of our hearts and move on but it just dont work that way… I feel very angery at my dad for leaving us i feel like he just abanded us now i know that thats not the deal here but i cant help how i feel i cry alot and talk to his pic asking him why why,sadly no answer im so hurtbut i do know that life go’s on and he will live with in me and threw me i must pass him down to my children and all the grandbabies that will never know there PAPA my dad is heaven’s papa now and i know that he is rocking all my angel babies along with the baby him and my mom lost many yrs ago……. Peter i love u and miss u please keep my dad in check and on his toes,keep him bizzy running after you and all your angel friends love you baby boy kisses and hugs from mommy A…..
I’m very sorry for your loss – I too lost my Dad some years ago and I like to think that somewhere he is looking after two of his grandchildren who died before he did. Dad loved children and despised those who hurt them. I hope you all find the strength to pull together and keep his memory alive and strong. XXX
I would like to post a thank you to all the insight on this horrible death of such a sweet boy. I live in Nevada, US and am seriously considering taking a trip to London to view Baby Peter’s memorial and leave a teddy bear for him. I read somewhere that Peter had a teddy bear – was there any confort for Peter at all? What about his siblings? It’s hard for me to be in the US and keep up-to-date on the case through the internet. Any recent news left in this correspondence would be appreciated by all. Rest in peace little Peter. XOXO
I think some of the post are losing sight of what is important and that is get the laws changed so what happened to Baby Peter is not in vain and does not happen to another innocent child. Jesus said suffer the little children to come unto me but I am sure he did not mean as abused babies. WE need to pass mandatory home health visits for all children not in school. We need to make sure the laws state the social workers need to see and touch the chhildren on home visits and not take excuses of the child is asleep or visiting someone else. If the child is asleep they need to physically be able to go in and check on the child, whats to say the child is not injured and I believe in full body scans for at risk children. But the most important thing of all is to use common sense, if anyone had used that with Baby Peter he would be alive today. Also I want to know why he wasn’t with his father once he was put on the at risk list. IF the mother can’t or won’t protect her children why are they not given to the father, why does it seem like social services wants to get dads out of the picture and say you have to go to court to get better visitation or custody. Also another great idea is to remove the parents from the home and put in someone that will take care of the children instead of sending the kids to a foster home, let the foster home come to the children. Also if you abuse drugs or alcohol will you abuse your children…
R.I.P. LITTLE ANGEL YOU ARE SAFE FROM HARM NOW BABY. even though i never knew you i will always remember u and the hell you went through.IM SORRY BABY YOU HAD A TERRIBLE LIFE.i wish i could have been your mom you never would of went through that hell.rip baby
a bit extreme don’t you think. It is as if you thought Whitney and/or Laura beat poor Peter to death.
I read somewhere that he was always looking for cuddles from his mom but I guess he did not get it. What should have happened is when his dad took Peter he should never have given him back. If he had kept him he would still be alive today. I do not know the full story though so I have no idea why the father just gave Peter back so easily
Very poor judgement on his part is one reason; there have been many fathers who were seemingly blind to the injuries on their child’s body and their child’s reluctance to want to go back to Mum…there’s no great mystery to this – that poor kid had dead beat parents on both sides.
As I understand it he took Peter in attempt to protect him. Maybe that was not the case after all. I do not understand why he took him if he was going to give him back so easily.
The man had access visits via a custody agreement. He was required by law to return the child and noticed the last time he gave the child back that Peter cried and was reluctant to go to the mother…the kid was never without injuries on his body so I cannot understand how he never noticed anything. Obviously the child was never undressed for a wash when with the father…
the man was not bothered enough to hear any alarm bells – they would have deafened most other people.
Just spammed another comment from a religious nutcase – the thing that strikes me about these happy-clappy loonies is how UNchristian their attitude is. I dont even bother reading most of what they write these days – just the keywords ‘god’ and ‘bible’ are enough to make me hit the spam and delete button. Their comments will NOT make it onto here that’s for sure.
WTF!!!!! seriously what stupid ppl would allow peter 2 return home bak 2 the person who was on bail for hurting him in the first place.. what mother would allow that crap 2 happen in the first place… you bring a child into the world, u care for it, u protect it, u put ur life on the line for it… she let a monster hurt her baby boy, and the whole while she sat back and let it happen… how loud can you scream for help before its 2 late… peter was screaming infact he would have begged if he could talk, but still she turned her bak to him… she is no mother.. she dosent deserve the title! peter deserved a life, a mother, and some god-dam respect!
everyone should be on trial for this…not just the monster of a stepfather, but the mother, the policemen who gave Peter back to the mother (in exchange for something I’m sure) the social workers and the Dr. Put them all in a cage with a few rotweillers and see who comes out on top and the lone survivor hopefully Steven Baker then gets the same treatment starting with yanking his finger nails out…Give me a couple of hard pipe hitting niggas, a pair of pliers and blow torch… then I’d put his head in a vice until his eye balls popped out. For Peter’s sake, were he to die no matter what, I’d only wish this animal had killed earlier on and spare this child the fright and pain. I hope they are shown no mercy
Barker is a well marked man in prison and I understand any prisoner who gets at him will be ‘top of the tree’…we all know prisoners have their own code of conduct and people like Barker are always having to look over their shoulder. I am guessing he is in line for something particularly nasty in the near future once he drops his guard…and he will deserve it. As a mother I’d like five minutes with Tracey Connelly – five minutes is all I’d need.
I have been watching this case very closely for almost two years now and even risked prosecution during the trial by publishing certain details. The crazy thing was those ‘details’ were available on the website of the crown court itself but there is a tiny bit of ‘law’ which states you cannot bring those details to the attention of the public by way of a link…in reality the crown court website was in contempt of itself!
Due to the caring attitude of a certain Met Police figure who had been in attendance when the three scum were charged, I managed to keep this site active and was able to keep up to date with what was happening in the trial. Technically I was in contempt of court but the satisfying thing was the many police who had read this blog and agreed wholeheartedly with what I was saying. I was able to send an email to the presiding judge in the trial, Stephen Kramer (who my actions had angered severely), and explained why I was doing what I was doing and how the public was feeling about the events.
I am sure that as members of the public we have a facility where we can object to certain criminals being released – there has to be something in British law which allows a public objection just as it allows one to make a citizens arrest. Possibly even a member of the public can even launch a civil case against Tracey Connelly and the two Barkers which could see them returned to prison – little Peter seems to have no-one to stand up for him. I am just waiting for an overseas blogger/journalist, well outside British jurisdiction, to publish a picture of either Jon Venables or Robert Thompson…even the odd detail about them and their new life that would be enough to identify them – and I will be on it like a flash. I would do the same should Peters mother and killers be given new identities and released…what have we got to lose? this blog is hosted in the US and a little thing called ‘freedom of expression’ exists over there as well as ‘freedom of the press’. When the solicitor from the crown court tried to have my site shut down the hosting company in the US told them to get lost and they refused. I would ‘out’ the Bulger killers and Peter’s killers in a second. But only if I was 100% sure I had the right people, and I must emphasise that.
By ‘the right people’ I simply mean that I would make sure I was outing the actual individuals and not someone who was rumoured to be them. A few years ago a journalist in South Australia had evidence of one of the Bulger killers new identity and the story was going to press in an Australian magazine but was stopped. That it happened in South Australia, homebase of the most significant paedophile ring in the southern hemisphere, was not lost on me. What has been going on in SA since the 1960′s is simply bloodcurdling but, of course, their numbers include judges, police, politicians, doctors, television stars, hundreds of young males have simply disappeared in SA over the past 40 years – including many children – one young man wrote to me anonymously and told me that he knew three young men (who had all been victims of this network) who tried to expose them… and all ended up as shark bait in the Torrens River. Frightening stuff – everyone knows about it but too many powerful people are involved that pull the strings. A high profile news reader was involved in preparing a report on their activities – his twelve year old son was abducted and murdered days later. The report never made it to publication.
GOOD FOR YOU, WENDY!!! WHAT YOU DO IS AMAZING! KEEP UP THE FIGHT.
Too right we will!
Wendy as I posted a comment earlier I live in Canada and at anytime you hear that these vindictive scumbags could be let out of prison with protected identities, please I beg you to let me know…because come hell or highwater I will, along with many others bring my Country around and put a stop to their stupid heartless decision!! If anything baby Peter deserves justice!!!! They took his life and should not be granted a new life for themselves!! The pure thought of them being released with new identities just sounds ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I hear anything to that effect I will not keep quiet I can assure you!
I still think of Baby P everyday. Infact, I believe, he is my son’s Guardian Angel and , I always finish my prayers with “… baby P, watch over my son and all abused and neglected children”…
Rest In Peace… innocent, lovely Peter
-Leena & Dominic
I j ust found about this story and made me cry.
Still think about you and love you everyday, my favorite blond hair, blue eyed cutie <3
Wendy,
I havent been on here in a while, and I havent heard any informantion about what is happening with the Mother and boyfriend of baby peter? I keep him in my thoughts and close to my heart daily
Hi Sheila – if you go to categories at the top and click on ‘Justice for Baby Peter’ you will be able to read updated articles I have written on the story. Tracey Connelly remains in Low Newton Prison in Co Durham where it is claimed she is in a ‘relationship’ with another evil female, Rosemary West. The Barker Brothers are also in prison, Steven Barker currently in Wakefield Prison. I do not know at present which prison Jason Owen (Barker) is being held in. Jason Owen and Tracey Connelly are expected to be considered for release within 3-5 years. An Inquiry into the death of Peter Connelly was proposed for early 2011 however it has now been decided it will not go ahead.
I want to see the laws changed, if you abuse your child you lose custody, why does social services continue to put at risk children back in the home with the abuser, if a parent abuses or alllows someone else to abuse their child, why do they get them back to abuse again. Baby Peter and his sisters should have been removed and given to dad, if dad couldn’t or wouldn’t take them then why were they not placed for adoption. How many people would love to have those beaufiful children to love and raise. We need to stop rewarding bad behavior, it is not your right to have children to raise if you don’t take care of them. Please change the laws and stop the abuse cycle.
Hi Wendy, thank you for caring enough to start this webpage, I have recently discovered it and the discussions have answered many of the questions I had regarding baby P’s tragic death.
I currently reside in N.Z but am originally from the U.K. Over the past three years I have thought about baby P constantly, but even more so after I gave birth to my beautiful baby boy 17 months ago. He gives us so much joy and he is an absolute delight that I often get overwhelmed with sadness as I think of how baby P should be enjoying and living life like my baby boy. I breaks my heart as a mother that anyone could stand by and watch/let it happen.
I have read that maybe the monsters will be given new identities and relocated…….. I am going to write to the N.Z government to voice my concerns if they are ever located here, I am sure they will be constantly be looking over their shoulders………….
My partner and our baby boy are returning to England for a holiday in April and we are going to visit Peter’s memorial garden to pay our respects.
Social services needs to be blown up and a new system put in place. Train people who have compassion, empathy and want to help children, not turn a blind eye, then head down the pub feeling good because they ticked a few boxes on a sheet of paper. Get rid of social workers.
Just one question, Wendy, thats been bothering me for some time, why wasn’t it a murder trial for baby P’s murder???
Why wasn’t it a murder trial…?
Very good question – just put it down to the expert wranglings of the legal teams of the accused. Tracey Connelly refused to identify who delivered the fatal blow to the baby and Barker pointed the finger back at her blaming her for his injuries, but we know that it was Barker who killed Peter. The 15 year old girlfriend of Jason Barker-Owen was present in the house on the last night of Peters life. She claimed Stephen Barker went into the baby’s room after Connelly complained about Peter’s constant crying – the baby had a broken back and missing fingernails among other things by this points. She claimed in a statement that Barker said ‘I’ll sort him’ and went into the baby’s room where the crying suddenly stopped. He came out and nobody apparently went back into the room again until the next morning when the baby was found dead by one of his older siblings. Barker had punched the baby so hard his baby teeth were later found in his throat. So it is obvious who delivered the fatal blow however Connelly refused to affirm it preferring to protect Barker. Later they both blamed each other.
Members of the Jury assumed during the trial and evidence that they would be deliberating on a murder conviction, they never gave it a second thought that it was not a murder trial – then strangely at the point in proceedings when all evidence had been heard judge Kramer informed them they were not to convict on murder, but on ‘causing or allowing a death’. This caused disbelief among the jury and it is still not clear why on earth judge Kramer did this as it was very obvious that Barker had killed the child. Jury members spoke about their outrage at this after the trial, this is why Connelly and the Barker brothers are not in prison for life or anything near it. Barker in fact got a longer sentence for raping baby Peter’s two year old sister.
So what should have been a murder trial ended up being a farce – as were the sentences that judge Stephen Kramer handed down. He could have banged them away for a longer amount of time but in keeping with the whole sorry story he made their sentences a joke as well.